Comments on: And We’re Back! http://giants.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/27/and-were-back-2/ The Giants blog for Lower Hudson Valley fans. Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:00:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=wordpress-mu-1.2.5 By: Del 85 http://giants.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/27/and-were-back-2/#comment-5427 Del 85 Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:06:50 +0000 http://giants.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/27/and-were-back-2/#comment-5427 I agree with Ernie that Eli cannot carry the team on his back. That said, the entire offense has been lousy the last several games, starting with barely beating Miami in London, 13-10. Burress is gimpy; Toomer has lost a step and is nearing the end, I think, and Moss is so small Eli can't find him...or so it seems. The O-line hasn't been much good lately, either, when it comes to the passing game. The Giants need Steve Smith back, and they need Ward and Jacobs ASAP. I'm also really wondering about some of the play-calling. I agree with Ernie that Eli cannot carry the
team on his back.

That said, the entire offense has been lousy
the last several games, starting with barely
beating Miami in London, 13-10.

Burress is gimpy; Toomer has lost a step and
is nearing the end, I think, and Moss is so
small Eli can’t find him…or so it seems.

The O-line hasn’t been much good lately, either,
when it comes to the passing game.

The Giants need Steve Smith back, and they need Ward
and Jacobs ASAP. I’m also really wondering about
some of the play-calling.

]]> By: Brian http://giants.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/27/and-were-back-2/#comment-5425 Brian Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:15:35 +0000 http://giants.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/27/and-were-back-2/#comment-5425 I said I'd give Kitna and Mcnab a long look. If you're just talking one year I'd probaly take Kitna, who is completing 70% of his passes, McNab and Bulger over Eli. If I have to keep him for years then the younger and healthier Eli would get the nod. I said I’d give Kitna and Mcnab a long look. If you’re just talking one year I’d probaly take Kitna, who is completing 70% of his passes, McNab and Bulger over Eli. If I have to keep him for years then the younger and healthier Eli would get the nod.

]]> By: Paul http://giants.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/27/and-were-back-2/#comment-5424 Paul Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:58:41 +0000 http://giants.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/27/and-were-back-2/#comment-5424 If you’ve watched the Giants for any number of years you saw this one coming. A substitute quarterback has the game of his life, the Giants give up big plays, they don’t adjust quickly or well to something they didn’t expect, and they lose. The clincher for me was Pierce revealing the Giants’ defensive game plan in the Sunday papers. The Viking offensive coordinator ran the ball once to see if the Giants really were going to crowd the line and then threw a bomb for a TD. The offense didn’t have to do much after that because Eli gave them 21 of their points. The amazement expressed by the players and coach after the game told me clearly that they did not respect the Vikings. After a Miami game that they almost blew, the Giants have no excuses for taking anyone lightly. I can’t believe that Manning and Shockey are having communication problems this late in the season. According to the papers they couldn’t agree on what a “hot� situation was. Even if that was true for the first interception, the coaches should have sat them down on the sidelines and solved the problem before the offense took the field again. It does look like everything has to be working for Eli to be successful. I'd still like to see him run more. If you’ve watched the Giants for any number of years you saw this one coming. A substitute quarterback has the game of his life, the Giants give up big plays, they don’t adjust quickly or well to something they didn’t expect, and they lose. The clincher for me was Pierce revealing the Giants’ defensive game plan in the Sunday papers. The Viking offensive coordinator ran the ball once to see if the Giants really were going to crowd the line and then threw a bomb for a TD. The offense didn’t have to do much after that because Eli gave them 21 of their points.

The amazement expressed by the players and coach after the game told me clearly that they did not respect the Vikings. After a Miami game that they almost blew, the Giants have no excuses for taking anyone lightly.
I can’t believe that Manning and Shockey are having communication problems this late in the season. According to the papers they couldn’t agree on what a “hot� situation was. Even if that was true for the first interception, the coaches should have sat them down on the sidelines and solved the problem before the offense took the field again.
It does look like everything has to be working for Eli to be successful. I’d still like to see him run more.

]]> By: Ernie Palladino http://giants.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/27/and-were-back-2/#comment-5423 Ernie Palladino Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:42:30 +0000 http://giants.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/27/and-were-back-2/#comment-5423 Brian: You're right. Palmer should probably be in there. I'm a little surprised, though, at your choice of Kitna, a guy who's never done anything, and a broken down McNabb. Bulger, too. You must really hate Eli. Brian:

You’re right. Palmer should probably be in there. I’m a little surprised, though, at your choice of Kitna, a guy who’s never done anything, and a broken down McNabb. Bulger, too. You must really hate Eli.

]]> By: Brian http://giants.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/27/and-were-back-2/#comment-5422 Brian Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:23:23 +0000 http://giants.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/27/and-were-back-2/#comment-5422 The biggest problem with Manning is he is useless when the play breaks down. I'm so sick of watching the Giant defense pressure the QB only to watch him escape and make a big play down field. We NEVER see that with Eli. And we never will. You could live with it if Eli had above average accuracy but he doesn't even complete 60% of his passes. I would take Roethlisberger, Derek Anderson, Cutler, Schaub, Garrard, Rivers, Brees, Hasselbeck, Bulger, Garcia and Campbell over Eli in a heartbeat. I'd also think hard about Kitna and McNab too. EA you stink!!!!!! P.S. I think you forgot to add Carson Palmer to your list of QB's that are obvious choices over Manning in your article. The biggest problem with Manning is he is useless when the play breaks down. I’m so sick of watching the Giant defense pressure the QB only to watch him escape and make a big play down field. We NEVER see that with Eli. And we never will. You could live with it if Eli had above average accuracy but he doesn’t even complete 60% of his passes. I would take Roethlisberger, Derek Anderson, Cutler, Schaub, Garrard, Rivers, Brees, Hasselbeck, Bulger, Garcia and Campbell over Eli in a heartbeat. I’d also think hard about Kitna and McNab too. EA you stink!!!!!!
P.S. I think you forgot to add Carson Palmer to your list of QB’s that are obvious choices over Manning in your article.

]]> By: teetime http://giants.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/27/and-were-back-2/#comment-5421 teetime Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:10:51 +0000 http://giants.lohudblogs.com/2007/11/27/and-were-back-2/#comment-5421 Hi Ernie ,I think Eli also runs this blog .I agree with you about Eli ,he may win a super bowl one day ,but it won't be with the Giants, he doesn't seem capable of leading a team to victory on blood and guts,for Eli to win the stars must be in alignment and everything perfect.I would take Jeff Garcia over him ,I think a guy like Garcia could propel a team in the playoffs further than Eli can. There's just something I just don't like about Manning ,at times he may show a flash of brilliance but he can't sustain it,he's mediocre at best,some argue that his record for 50 games still shows promise,but if you watch him game after game he doesn't inspire confidence for the future for most fans.But 18 million is a big hit in the cap,so we're stuck with him unless he really goes downhill fast with the remainder of this season and next,Coach Tom will bear the brunt of Manning's ineptitude. Hi Ernie ,I think Eli also runs this blog .I agree with you about Eli ,he may win a super bowl one day ,but it won’t be with the Giants, he doesn’t seem capable of leading a team to victory on blood and guts,for Eli to win the stars must be in alignment and everything perfect.I would take Jeff Garcia over him ,I think a guy like Garcia could propel a team in the playoffs further than Eli can. There’s just something I just don’t like about Manning ,at times he may show a flash of brilliance but he can’t sustain it,he’s mediocre at best,some argue that his record for 50 games still shows promise,but if you watch him game after game he doesn’t inspire confidence for the future for most fans.But 18 million is a big hit in the cap,so we’re stuck with him unless he really goes downhill fast with the remainder of this season and next,Coach Tom will bear the brunt of Manning’s ineptitude.

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